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      #21628 - 01/08/05 07:36 AM


Trail Etiquette
by Stu Olson

There comes a point in everyone's life when that trail ride just doesn't turn out to be the kind of fun you expected. It could be due to a difficult mechanical failure, a personality rub with another driver, bad weather, or a vehicle/driver that was not capable of completing the trail without constant assistance. You can't do much about the weather and even a well maintained vehicle can have an unexpected mechanical failure, especially when wheeling in extreme conditions. However, under equipped vehicles (or drivers) and personality rubs can many times be avoided with some well thought out planning and by demonstrating simple trail manners. I've listed some comments and ideas that I believe will make all of us better off-roaders, be it drivers or trail leaders.



Drivers:

1. First and foremost, be courteous to the other folks you are sharing the trail with. That goes for the folks that are in your group as well as others you find on the trail. All of us that enjoy off-highway travel, the Jeepers, ATVers, mountain bikers, motorcycles, hunters, campers, and hikers....we all need to share the trails and foster good will with each other.

2. When traveling on the trail, be sure to keep the driver behind you in sight. By doing so, the driver will know which turn you took and you will know if he/she is experiencing any trouble. When everyone in the group follows this procedure, the trail leader will know if he/she is going at the proper pace. Some folks refer to this as the "rubber band" method. The group stretches out in the open areas and tightens back up in the twisty and turny parts of the trail.

3. Be prepared with the minimum items you need for a successful run. Some of these items depend on the terrain you are traveling in and the capability of your vehicle. I would not think of hitting the trail without a properly maintained nylon tow strap and adequate tow points (shackles or hooks) on both ends of the vehicle. Make sure you do not get the ones that have the hooks on end of the straps. Your strap should have a loop at each end. Keep it in a handy position inside the vehicle. Waiting for someone to unpack their Jeep to get to the strap is a simply a waste of good trail time.

4. Maintaining communications while on the trail keeps everyone informed as to what is happening. If you need to stop, announce it on the CB or FRS. Take advantage of the opportunities when the group does stop (nature break, getting something cold to drink, etc.). Keeping everyone informed makes for an enjoyable ride.

5. This is one I hate to see happen...running over the tow strap or the winch cable. Make sure that when someone is giving you a strap up the hill, or a winch pull over that obstacle, you don't overdrive the strap or cable. I once came upon a 1/2 ton Chevy 4x4 who was unable to make it over a ledge. He kept hi-centering himself. I pulled him off the ledge and got him off to the side of the trail. After I went up and over the ledge, I strapped him over the ledge after he hi-centered again. As he was wildly spinning his open diff front tires, he got on top of MY strap and proceeded to put a nice set of friction burns on it, in several spots. (He really blew #3.)

6. Make sure your Jeep is ready for the trail. If you noticed that your u-joint is wobbling around, do yourself and your friends a favor and replace it before you go on the trail. Get familiar with the bottom side of your vehicle and spend a few minutes well before and shortly after each run under the Jeep. Check your fluids (engine, tranny, diffs, t-case, radiator, battery, brake, etc.) at home and always carry extra fluids. I am not saying you need to bring along a complete change for everything, but if everyone brings a couple of quarts of engine oil, a quart of ATF, a quart of gear lube, etc., no one should be left on the trail because of a lack of fluids assuming one can get the broken item to stop leaking.



Trail Leader:

1. The trail leader needs to have a short drivers meeting right after everyone is aired down, disconnected, etc. I believe that the leader, at this time, sets the "tone" for the ride and helps ensure that everyone starts out on an even playing field. This meeting format is a carry over from my job at the nuclear power plant (and also done in other industrial settings as well), called a tail board meeting. The participants (workers, drivers, makes no difference) are briefed on what to expect, and "rules" you like to adhere to (the rubber band concept for instance), and comments on what to expect, when to expect it, etc.

2. Encourage responsible use of the CB.... "I need to pull over for a rest stop", etc. Communications is vital in a trail ride. Not knowing what is going on is frustrating to everyone. I personally like the newer FRS radios. These handheld FM radios have much better clarity than the AM type CB radios. They are not prone to ignition noise interference and when the "skip" is in on the CB radios, FRS radios are never bothered by it. If you have a favorite trail buddy who loves to constantly chatter, I would strongly recommend getting a pair of FRS radios. You and your friend can talk up a storm while leaving the CB channel available for the more formal (OK....maybe it is not that serious) communications.

3. I personally like to stagger the stock and built up Jeeps. It makes it easier to supply assistance (such as a strap or winch effort) to the vehicle behind you. A couple of times, significant shuffling had to be done to get a more capable Jeep back to a troublesome spot in the trail to provide assistance to another vehicle. By staggering them, you should never have to shuffle but one position in the line up, unless a winch is required and there is but one lucky vehicle in the group.

4. Another point I think is helpful, trail permitting, is for the leader to stop at a bypass for an upcoming obstacle, when possible. Many times, the bypass turn off is quite close to the obstacle. At this point, folks can walk up to the obstacle, check it out, and make their decision, examine possible lines, etc. If they have no intention of doing the obstacle, they can take the bypass and NOT have to shuffle their way back through the group to get to the turn off.

5. Although I sometimes forget, I try to remember to bring my spare CB (it is a handheld unit with a cig lighter power cord). One of the other folks mentioned the possibility of a CB failure on the trail, and this is an easy piece of insurance that negates the failure. (The other guy will thank you for it!)
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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: KingOfThePines]
      #21631 - 01/08/05 08:24 AM

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6. Make sure your Jeep is ready for the trail. If you noticed that your u-joint is wobbling around, do yourself and your friends a favor and replace it before you go on the trail.






good advice though,,,


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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: ]
      #21646 - 01/08/05 05:32 PM

nice guideline King, it's good for people to read PORSCHE


(had to fix a few of your spelling errors )

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: JeepinINdaXJ]
      #21653 - 01/08/05 06:42 PM

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nice guideline King, it's good for people to read PORSCHE




agian...


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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: KingOfThePines]
      #21686 - 01/09/05 03:24 PM

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3. I personally like to stagger the stock and built up Jeeps. It makes it easier to supply assistance (such as a strap or winch effort) to the vehicle behind you. A couple of times, significant shuffling had to be done to get a more capable Jeep back to a troublesome spot in the trail to provide assistance to another vehicle. By staggering them, you should never have to shuffle but one position in the line up, unless a winch is required and there is but one lucky vehicle in the group.




you mean your not good at playing tetris?


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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: ]
      #21698 - 01/09/05 03:54 PM

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3. I personally like to stagger the stock and built up Jeeps. It makes it easier to supply assistance (such as a strap or winch effort) to the vehicle behind you. A couple of times, significant shuffling had to be done to get a more capable Jeep back to a troublesome spot in the trail to provide assistance to another vehicle. By staggering them, you should never have to shuffle but one position in the line up, unless a winch is required and there is but one lucky vehicle in the group.




you mean your not good at playing tetris?


I am prity shure king posted this for informational purposes. Maybe instead of joking around you sould listen to his advice he is very experanced and his advise will help on the trail.

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: JeepinINdaXJ]
      #21734 - 01/09/05 07:05 PM

yea, i read it, i actually have a printed copy somewheres. but tetris is fun

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: JeepinINdaXJ]
      #21797 - 01/10/05 04:18 PM




I am prity shure king posted this for informational purposes. Maybe instead of joking around you sould listen to his advice he is very experanced and his advise will help on the trail.




well said chap


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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: ]
      #21807 - 01/10/05 06:31 PM

sound advice King

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      #21812 - 01/10/05 07:00 PM

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well said chap



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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: KingOfThePines]
      #24297 - 02/10/05 05:02 PM

Here here King Good post!

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: KingOfThePines]
      #38637 - 09/02/05 05:56 PM

Thanks King good information, hopefully when we do go out we will try to incorporate some good experienced people with the rest of US (Newbees) i really don't want to get stuck in the d...mn woods...i feel that when you are with a group you should all help each other out and not leave the one in trouble behind to deal with the problem all by him or herself....if you go in as a group then i think the rule should be then you go out with your group...Its Called TEAMWORK and common Courtesey for your fellow Wheelers

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: ]
      #38656 - 09/03/05 01:43 PM

WG2005 - You'll find most of the people who wheel, in this group, do help all(including us newbees). They've always been there for me Good luck and have fun

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: FrankDV]
      #38712 - 09/05/05 10:26 AM

When you to off roading, is there any specific CB channel that is supposed to be used? I usually have mine on 18 till I get to the trail and then switch it to 9, unless I am going with others, then we either use a pre-determined CB channel or FRS/GMRS radios.

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: ]
      #39684 - 10/16/05 07:27 PM

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When you to off roading, is there any specific CB channel that is supposed to be used? I usually have mine on 18 till I get to the trail and then switch it to 9, unless I am going with others, then we either use a pre-determined CB channel or FRS/GMRS radios.



There's no official "you must use Channel X" rule for offroading, but I think a lot of 4x4 clubs like Channels 4 and 16 (4x4 = 16). For a ride DEJA did this weekend, we ran on 4 until we got to Rausch Creek, then split up on 4 and 5 for our two groups. Channel 9 is the emergency use channel, so it's cool that you're monitoring it.

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: KingOfThePines]
      #40058 - 10/31/05 08:02 PM

I'll tell you what...I'm going to print this list out and take it with me next time I go off-roading and hand it to everyone in the group, and then maybe I won't get left behind in the woods again...like on the first day of this year's Pine Barren's cleanup. Fun event. Really fun. But how 4 drivers could go after the lead driver and not tell him that over 9 other trucks just disappeared off the trail is beyond me. What kind of jerk do you have to be not to notice that more than half of your group is no longer behind you and hasn't been for over 20 minutes? I was so mad I could have ripped the wings off the Jersey Devil and then beat him over the head with them. I've only been 4-wheeling twice. Once was with the Jeep Jamboree people, and they drilled into our heads that you NEVER keep going if you can't see the guy behind you. Thankfully, that experience didn't keep me from going back for day two, the actual cleanup, and I had a great time hanging out with some Exterra drivers...who renewed my faith in the kindness and reliability of strangers.

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: RayEl]
      #40064 - 10/31/05 09:10 PM

Hey Ray, you made it!!

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: RayEl]
      #40088 - 11/01/05 12:15 PM

and there is no "e" at the front of Xterra

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      #40089 - 11/01/05 12:19 PM

Isn't that the new Ford SUV? New in 2006! The Ford Exterra, with 5th row seating, accommodates 16 passengers.

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Re: Trail Etiquette new [Re: blackagave]
      #40149 - 11/02/05 10:36 AM

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I'm going to print this list out and take it with me next time I go off-roading and hand it to everyone in the group, and then maybe I won't get left behind in the woods again...like on the first day of this year's Pine Barren's cleanup




Getting left sucks and happens too often.I was out that Saturday, Did you get left behind after the group left the Atsion ranger station (I didn't do the 2nd ½)? Big groups really need someone on tail.

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9 other trucks just disappeared off the trail




Not making excuses but out of 9rigs wheelin someone should have had a CB to say hold-up.

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4. Maintaining communications while on the trail keeps everyone informed as to what is happening. If you need to stop, announce it on the CB or FRS... Keeping everyone informed makes for an enjoyable ride.





Edited by Enormiss (11/02/05 10:38 AM)


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